Dan Savage on What the Institution of Marriage Means
It has been redefined over time, and means different things to different people.
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@johnclavis: Religious debate isn’t what needs to be discussed. The video is about gay marriage, not the existence of a higher power.
I am not confused or angry. You are totally anti-intellectual to think that there was no Jesus. Jesus has more historical documents and manuscripts than Plato and Caeser. People like you reject Jesus and any concept of God because it requires you to acknowledge your faultiness and sin. BTW, atheist regimes such as Mao and Stalin were not really pleasant places to be under. Sounds like you are the one angry.
marriage is nothing more than a legal contract it has nothing to do with religion.. u can have religious marriage but that is not the marriage that u go to the courthouse to get a license for.. u can marry somebody in a church but without the license u are not married in the eyes of the state unless u have a common law marriage law..morons like ehunter2 spread their errors and bigotry because they have their own issues that need to be worked out about sex and his lack of morals
So we can all become “progressive” ..accept homosexuality as a lifestyle..that actually has its own religion? A religion of egomanical self indulgence? Now why dont you give up trying to be philosophical and go shop for some new drapes, or a dress for the ball tonight
I will tell any fag exactly what I think. Ive done dozens of times. Guess what happens? The smile.,..look like they swallowed a turd…their eyes get watery and they try to scream homophobe. Then they collapse like a balloon with the air gone out. They have no answers, their little game is over.
You’re a punk who probably stammers and whimpers when he’s face-to-face with people. I’m sure you get some kind of pathetic satisfaction from hiding behind your keyboard and calling other people names where you can feel brave and protected. Go have another breakfast burrito and watch Glenn Beck, faggot.
How stupid or crazy do you have to be to convince yourself that a whole enormous group of people, who as far as anybody knows just want the same rights as anybody else, are actually all in a big CONSPIRACY TO DESTROY AMERICA!!?!? How sick in the head do you have to be to justify being anti-gay marriage by saying “Well, the gays don’t really care about marriage, they’re just trying to DESTROY THINGS!” That’s something a crazy person would say! You must be out of your mind!
Your response makes absolutely no sense. Maybe if this country had a decent educational system, people like you wouldn’t be so ignorant and easily manipulated and you wouldn’t be as confused and angry as you are.
Religious faith is crap. Jesus, if he existed at all, was just a nutty human. God is a fictional concept with which authoritarians keep sheep like you in line. Stop infecting America with your superstitious fairy tales and let’s live in the real world.
your statements about Capote? and Michelangelo being equal
fine, except I didn’t say that. Never even suggested it. I said that your statement that “the gap between Michelangelo and Capote [...] is interplanetary in size” was a debatable point. Not that it’s wrong, or even relative, just that it’s irrelevant to the discussion at hand, and would be more relevant to a discussion of Art History, or Aesthetics.
What possible evidence could I produce that would be better than what you yourself provide? As a homosexual you are blind to your condition. But to anyone else..your statements about Capote and Michelangelo being equal..that its all “relative” are so glaring..so insane as to prove my point.
And you’re a typical internet message board troll. Willing to harp on with immature inflammatory remarks, and unable to back them up with anything even remotely approaching logical arguments. And, you’re calling me a fag, and declaring that fags can’t be artists, then referring to me as adolescent? Hilarious.
Typical fag ..trying to hide your lack of any real substance behind the adolescent “its all relative” horseshit. No wonder you freaks are universally despised
blah blah blah. of course it is debatable. art, taste, and aesthetics are nothing if not debatable. I’d rather suffer the “derangement known as homosexuality” than to be willfully ignorant of the contributions of homosexuals to the art world.
they should have met him with thunderous applause at around 0:50
No its NOT debatable..that you even remotely believe it to be is a sign of mental and emotional disease. Its a symptom of the derangement known as
homosexuality
Don’t forget Alan Turing.
The gap between Michelangelo and Truman Capote for example is interplanetary in size.
That’s a debatable point. Doesn’t change the fact that both were homosexual artists. And as for Tennessee Williams and Leonardo Da Vinci, you didn’t ask for the differences between them, you asked for examples of gay artists. Actually, you didn’t ask, you just declared there weren’t any.
Well I will enlighten you a little futher.
The gap between Michelangelo and Truman Capote for example is interplanetary in size. But its precisely the distance between Truman Capote the fake..the socializing New York city hustler who betrayed everyone who trusted him, the fake who wrote bestsellers about murder and ran off to the cocktail party and Michelangelo the supreme artist of Western Civ…who WAS NOT a homosexual. Notice how you cant tell between Tennesse Williams and Leonardo either.
Oh you’re right. My bad. Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, Tennessee Williams, Truman Capote, Greta Garbo, Virginia Woolf, and Oscar Wilde were totally not artists. Boy I sure am glad you told me.
What a steaming pile of horseshit. Another lie to pile on all the others. Homosexuals are emotionally stunted freaks. Yes they can be interior designers, yes they can be pop stars, yes they can be Hollywood scum..but ARTISTS…? ARTISTS?..you must be kidding. Oh wait..you think that pop stars, movie stars, and mincing fags obsessed with clothes, jewelry and image ..are creative…thats right
I guess it comes from watching fags destroy art, science and literature
Many of the most renowned figures in the creation of art, science, and literature have been fags. I’m sorry you’re so angry about your own repressed sexual longings. Come out of the closet, it’ll be ok.
“North American Man/Boy Love association(NAMBLA) are trying to work for lower age consent with you children/teenagers.”
They’ve been trying for that since they existed, but societal attitudes about pedophilia/pederasty have not changed significantly. I doubt they ever will.
“it is not? absurd to assume that people will be able to marry 13 year olds”
I’m fairly certain 13-year-olds can already marry in some states. And really, who cares? I don’t wanna marry a 13 year old, do you?
You are a coward and/or a liar. Tell me your name and give me your university email. Do you feel the same way about black pride and african-american studies? Are they not “real” according to your narrow world-view? You are a joke. Please don’t have children and if you do, abandon them to better people. That won’t be hard.
I think we BOTH know why you despise homosexuals, if you were truly honest with yourself though, you’d have the courage to instead of taking your anger out on others, take the anger out on YOURSELF.
The Goddess said ‘Cut off your own heads!’ — so if you want to hate, BY ALL MEANS: HATE! But direct that hatred INWARDS and be a man and buy a ONE WAY ticket for ONE PERSON and leave the rest of us OUT of it. It’s about responsibility.
With that said, any further therapy is gonna cost you!
If it weren’t for the straight males in Texas, Virginia and almost every southern state that STILL don’t consider sex with a 12 year old’s rape, looks like you heterosexuals beat the homos to the pedophilia before NAMBLA could ever think about it.
But then again, when you consider that 1 in 4 females has been raped or molested by their HETEROSEXUAL male family member, and that most sex crime states reflect pedophilia is a mainly heterosexual phenomena, it kind of makes sense.